访谈录 2009-09-23&09-26 奥巴马上《大卫牙擦苏》脱

I was looking at your itinerary 1 for the day. And the activities, and the stops and the visits, and considering your day yesterday, it just makes me dizzy. When you wake up on a day like this, is it something you relish 2, or is it something you say, "Oh, for heaven's sake, I gotta go see Letterman."

That was unexpected, seeing that appear on the schedule. I was... That's one of those when, you know, you ask your advisers 3, "who's responsible for this?"

Yes, exactly. Right.

And everybody kind of looks down and they pull out their Blackberries.

But I will say...

No body is accountable.

So we decided 4 there wasn't gonna be any fancy camps during the summer or anything. They basically just goofed 5 off all summer, which I couldn't do.

Either you have.

I started noticing when they would have these townhall meetings and there was vitriol, and general animosity, and anger, and shouting and pushing, and just unsavory behavior reported. I don't know if it was generally speaking, but it would be reported here and there. And then within the last week, a couple of days ago, Jimmy Carter started talking about this behavior and was speculating that perhaps this unease or poor decorum was because people was rooted in racism 6. Is he onto something there or is that something to talk about?

Well, first of all I think it's important to realize that I was actually black before the election.

This is true. This is true.

How long have you been a black man?

So the American people, I think, gave me this extraordinary honor. And that tells you, I think, a lot about where the country is at. I actually think that what's happened is that whenever a president tries to bring about significant changes, particularly during times of economic unease, then there is a certain segment of the population that gets very riot-up. And it happened, FDR(Franklin D. Roosevelt) was called a socialist 7 and a communist. JFK(John F. Kennedy), there are all kinds of names hurled 8 at him. Ronald Reagan, when he came into office, he was moving into a different direction and people were sure that he was bringing the country down. And so this is not untypical. One of the things you sign up for in politics is folks yell at you. But I think that what has been missing from the conversation is that the overwhelming majority of people, Republican or Democrat 9, I think they just want to see some common sense, they want to see some honesty, and integrity in Washington. I think they are turned off by the shouting and yelling. And they expect more from the public elected officials. So that's something that I want to...